<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post8047501552173615439..comments</id><updated>2008-11-17T22:54:44.833-08:00</updated><category term='Strategic Thinking'/><category term='Intelligent Investing'/><category term='Worth a glance'/><category term='Book Reviews'/><category term='Businesses I admire'/><category term='Straight Talk'/><category term='Blast from the past'/><title type='text'>Comments on Unfair Value: In pursuit of certainty</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/feeds/8047501552173615439/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html'/><author><name>Kamlesh Pandey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01428406137191219341</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://www.askrodin.com/images/tal473_10b.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>3</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-3647117522713543628</id><published>2008-11-17T22:54:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T22:54:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>You are not taking into account the effect of comp...</title><content type='html'>You are not taking into account the effect of compounding. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;years N=50&lt;BR/&gt;returns r=0.2 (20%)&lt;BR/&gt;probability of success p = 0.75 (75%)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For a large number N, you will succeed N*p times and fail n*(1-p) times&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;EndingValue = StartingValue * power(1+r,N * p)*power(1-2r,N*(1-p))&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;CAGR(%) = 100 * (power(power(1+r,N * p)*power(1-2r,N*(1-p)),1/N)-1)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So expected value does not give indication of the gains. A coin toss with 50% gain on success and 50% loss on failure has expected value zero but its a losing bet if played repeatedly.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The reason is &lt;BR/&gt;(1+r)*(1-r) = 1 - r*r&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you lose 50% of your investment this year, you won't be able to recover it by making 50% gains next year on the reduced capital.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Hope that answers your question.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Regards&lt;BR/&gt;Kamlesh</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/3647117522713543628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/3647117522713543628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html?showComment=1226991240000#c3647117522713543628' title=''/><author><name>Kamlesh Pandey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01428406137191219341</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://www.askrodin.com/images/tal473_10b.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-8047501552173615439' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/posts/default/8047501552173615439' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1046142981'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-840006389877588382</id><published>2008-11-17T09:24:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-17T09:24:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>As per my calculations, the expected return in cas...</title><content type='html'>As per my calculations, the expected return in case X is -0.6%, in case A is 5%, in case B is 6%, in case C is 8.4% and in case E is 8.7%. What am I doing wrong? (Example: Case A-&amp;gt; 75%*120 + 25%*60 = 105)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The rest of the post is strong even with the above calculations but the wrong calculations can bias one&amp;#39;s understanding more strongly.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/840006389877588382'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/840006389877588382'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html?showComment=1226942640000#c840006389877588382' title=''/><author><name>sudhanshoo</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-8047501552173615439' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/posts/default/8047501552173615439' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1821032793'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-7657262722412020157</id><published>2008-11-16T18:03:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-11-16T18:03:00.000-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Wow some article. After reading this and the last ...</title><content type='html'>Wow some article. After reading this and the last few articles I am really getting addicted and almost cant wait for the next one, just as i am addicted to Ajit Dayal's (equitymaster) articles. &lt;BR/&gt;The common thing between both of you is you speak truth and are honest. I am yet to come across articles/websites which speak the similar language. Cheers!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/7657262722412020157'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/8047501552173615439/comments/default/7657262722412020157'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html?showComment=1226887380000#c7657262722412020157' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.unfairvalue.com/2008/11/in-persuit-of-certainty.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1784375842090766909.post-8047501552173615439' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1784375842090766909/posts/default/8047501552173615439' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1640455649'/></entry></feed>
